Jerry Coyne is a professor in the Department of Ecology and Evolution at the University of Chicago. Jerry is well known for his research on the evolutionary genetics of speciation in Drosophila. His 2004 book Speciation, which he co-authored with H. Allen Orr, is a classic in the field. Jerry has also been very successful at writing for a popular audience with his 2009 book Why Evolution is True and its companion website. I met with Jerry in his office at the university of Chicago. We talked about religion and science and he shared some great stories about his days as a student. His story about how he got into graduate school at Harvard is just one of many really great stories in this episode.